I had written somewhere in this blog:

“How can in fact exist an easy mutual understanding between the people of the Mediterranean and the Hyperboreans, namely the northern folks living in a realm of clouds, rain, cold and darkness? Such diverse climate (together with a different history) is a potent factor for creating marked differences in behaviour, mood, disposition of soul etc., all of which makes intercourse difficult.”

But I also had said elsewhere:

“There is in fact a general attraction-repulsion among the people from North and South Europe. Let’s now forget the repulsion and focus instead on the terrible attraction we feel for each other.”

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The term Hyperboreans is here used (ie in the post of which this writing is a note) in the modern broad meaning of “any folk from a cold climate.” But I here mainly refer to the North Western somewhat German-related Europeans – Danes, Swedes, Norwegians, Germans, Dutch, English etc. – plus the Celts living in the UK.

The ancient Greeks coined the word Hyperborean to indicate a mythical folk living somewhere north of Thrace, a region North and East of Greece where to them the north cold wind, or Boreas, came from (hence hyper-borea meant to them ‘somewhere beyond the place from whence the cold wind originates’).

Living beyond and behind the north wind the Hyperboreans therefore enjoyed a temperate climate. According to Pliny the Elder:

“Beyond the Aquilon [thus the Romans called Boreas] one finds a blessed nation … many marvels are told of this people … the country enjoys a pleasant temperature.” (Hist. Nat. 4:26).

In the course of the later centuries and during the Renaissance scholars by Hyperboreans indicated folks occupying the whole northern polar area.

It is not totally unacceptable in our view that also during the Antiquity people signified by Hyperboreans some mysterious folk living somewhere in the far North.

And today as well – this is the idea I wanted to convey in my 3rd post on them – the Northern Europeans are somewhat mysterious, alien and fascinating at the same time to us Southern Europeans (which I’m sure it’s reciprocal.)

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Related posts from the Man of Roma’s blog:

Us and the Hyperboreans. 1

Us and the Hyperboreans. 2
Us and the Hyperboreans. 3

Differences of behaviour between hyperboreans and non hyperboreans:
Roman Humanitas
(point 1 only)

On the Britons and us:
Isn’t the British Trojan Horse a Short-sighted Animal?

Ups and Downs

On Germania vs Roma:
From the two Sides of the Roman Limes

Roman Limes. Between Two Worlds

12 thoughts on “Hyperboreans

  1. Hyperboreans are Burians, i.e. Buryans of Siberia as Si Berian. Burjans (Arabic) lived in the extreem north and the Marduan Princedom (By Kazan, Russia) Hyperboreans were minors, metal alchemist, Shamans and Tengranist. The Burian god Suvar is related as well as Zeus/Apollo. The Greek Palasgians were Hyperboreans. The new world wide Borean language (published year 2000 – see wikipedia) shows the extent of Hyperboreans, as the Burian and its variants can be found world-wide. The Hyperboreans were part of Tuvan, Asia/Mongolia at ~20,000 BC. Bulgars are also Burians (Burdjans or Burjans). Buddah, a Sakastan prince (SE Iran) was also a Burian as Bury/xan. the Y/x is a hybred Persian letter. The African connection can be made at Lake Baikal as the Grimaldi/Venus icon Goddess type relics found at Malta and Buret by Lake Baikal. The Russians toast the God Burjan at Lake Baikal today. Both Atilla – the Hun and Genghis Khan would be related as “all” Mongolians came from Siberians and/or Buryans (Sky-God) in very ancient times.Find Bulgar/Burjan in the Biblical 10-tribes and Burjan is also in Iranian mythology. The original Slavs lived in this north- west Russian territory. The 1st Nordic god Buri and the 1st Bulgarian god (Alp) was called Birgun. Stonehenge was built by them – in my opinion – as Burriton was the early name of corwall related to the family Brutus (Brenton and Britain) originates. The Celtiberians of spain were these ancestors too. Iberians Caucasus and Balkans hence Hibernia or Ireland) are also Hyperboreans too. The oracle of Delphi was also of the Kaberie “wolf cult” and – I believe – Kaberie is Burians too. The Subarians were an indigenous tribe of northern Mesopotamia and the Burjan kindom can be found at Lake Van (Turkey today). Hyperboreans called themselves Vans which is related to Vandals. The Dacian henge in Romania today is connected to a person named Burebista (actual name and spelling lost in history)is probally related to the Buri tribe of Germany (Berlin region)also in Dacia.
    This is a short overview, but I’ve studied this name for many years as its also my own surname. My great- grandfather came to America ~1882 from Bohemia. I believe their the Etruscans where today you can find the Buriano castle ruin (Buriano village on Arno River in Tuscany, and Buriano Bridge in th Mona-Lisa painting also on the Arno River, Tuscany.
    There is more to this story and I’m going to try and publish my work shortly. Thes notes are provided to help anyone about the topic “Hyperboreans”. Stonehenge you know has 56 post points related to the purely Hyperborean “Menton” year when Earth’s axis realigns and starts a New cycle (every 18.6 years, where 18+18+19+56, as a way to linearize a non-linear period. Thus every few cycles, this would average out. Stonehenge people would have thus worshipped Apollo, if this is true. Burians have a family tree for the surname, a tree of minted coins-worldwide, and a tree of gods and mythology, also worldwide. I think the Burians/Hyperboreans and others are also the Biblical “Gog”. The oldest coin I’m aware of dates ~2-3,000BC, and I believe the Zeus image on it (i.e. Lycaus “wolf” Zeus) was found on Mt. Lycaon or Zeus’s mountain in Greece. Burjans would be also related to the god Hephaestus and Lemnos Island traceable to the Etruscans too. I have lots of avenues to get the Burian surname to Bohemia (Home of the Boii). The Boii and Buri tribes of Germany are interelated, but the Boii didn’t record much older history. A Boii coin is called a “Diatec” and may alos be related to the Eburones of the Netherlands, whose name comes from Ebur River, Spain, a Celtiberian location. Celtiberian coins exhibit wolves. In Lybya the is a town Berryman, as Berbers are also (in my opinion) Burians, i.e. Hyperboreans and/or Liburnians of Liburnia, also the name of the Liburn war vessels Caligula sailed as his “orgy floating palace. Burians founded Rome in 753BC as Lupercale “wolf cave”. Note Roman coins exhibit wolves too.
    I think its important to expand thinking on the Burian tribes which was a smaller tribe, but very smart people as the lost city of Atlantis would suggest as an “highly advanced civilization” before it sank into the sea. The remnant of these people is the people in question, and there is data to support their advanced nature as percursors to th Copper,Bronze and Iron Ages. I believe this can be shown to be true.
    If Buryans were Tegranist. all ptramids and sacred caves would evolve from them, as they date 20.000 BC (end of last ice age)and can be connected to the Central Asian (Kurgans, Gok-Turks, Blue-Bulgars)and their Goddess Asena a She-Wolf character. The Romulus and Remus undoubtably comes from here. The Baskirs (Central Asia) and the Baskhorts Volga River Russia I thinks are also Buryan ancestors.
    Send me feedback if you like. I hope to publish my research soon, as its very complex over large regions, and over very long time frames with various languages, so this is quite difficult to ascertain, but I believe I’m on the right track. Your opinions would be appreciated wether or not you agree with me. This evolution steps on many religions, but has good continuity between them none-the-less. My research isn’t a religious exercise, but religious factors and writings are unavoidable. I hope were all open minded.
    You may want to look at the Burj (Burjan) octagon tower in India’s Agra fort, as this links the Hindi part of migration.
    Burjan is part of Socretes bloodline, and Pathagora was an Apollo follower. Any coin with “Apollo” would be a Hyperborean connection. There are many of this type.
    Burians did leave a remnant of their tribal name as they broke new ground during migrations in names of villages, rivers, and mountains. Albeit difficult, these names “can” be deciphered in many cases and I have to be very stubborn before accepting a credentiated historian study, as some contradict each other. The factors presented here can be backed by historical references.
    How does one explain fort Gust-i-Burjan in Iran and dated 100BC. Thus, originally my studies involved actual ruins, and the names currently applied to them. I’ve since done a DNA test and found my blood also has Siberian, Hindi, E Iran, Balkhan, Bohemian, etc. markers.
    The Borean language map should show this to be true likewise, but I haven’t read this yet, only review commentors, but. I think I already know why this name was chosen, as I started work in 1973, and this was published in 2000, so I already knew where this is heading. My name is the same historical problem associated with Aryans coming from the “North” or from Africa, which is also “your” problem with Hyperboreans. My DNA shows their from Africa originally, and I have lots of data to support this conclusion, and DNA.
    God Luck, hope to here from you.
    PS, I’m also seeking a publisher for my research (almost done and working on a summary currently)for any interested person/’s. Thanks for your web page, best wishes; R. Burian.

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  2. I’ve found more information for the Buriano Castle ruins in Tuscany. Apparently this era can be better explained by connection to the Lombards at ~800 AD.

    If correct, Lombards originate as Anglo-Saxons from the Netherlands. There is a Buren castle engraving from this region relative to the Counts of Van Buren. There is probability that Burens are related to the Burgundians, and some historians suggests Burgundian=Burjan. I believe Burgundians can by traced to the N. Black Sea (Burgund Village) region, and perhaps the Burgund mountain regions around Lake Baikal, but I haven’t confirmed this yet. However. Burgundians practiced artificial skull deformation as evidenced by their burials in Gaul and the Rhine regions. This can be found also in the N. Black Sea regions, and the Huns (Mongolia) also are well known for this practice, I’m guessing up to about 550AD. This is when Burgundians were annexed into German kingdoms, or Dutchy’s.

    The ruins around Buriano Tuscany are also of a Burgundian constuction according to some studies.

    This doesn’t change my previous notes because a Burian name can encompass Burgundians anyway.

    In actuality, these names may be derive from the 1st Nordic gog Buri, and his son’s Bor, Borri, Woden (Odin). From this comes the Greek – Hyperborean (Bor), and the Buri tribe claims their name comes from this name, and they are shown on Ptolomy’s maps as Lugi-Buri (two tribes). This dates ~170AD.

    In Austria, you have Count Burjan of Gutenstein (Gutstejn). I believe, or have read that Gutenstein means Woden’s Stone. Lombards worshiped Odin, and wolf embossings can be found of their sword and belt remnants found and studied. If your of the Buri tribe, than you would be a Burian, or Italian Buriano.

    The movie “Gladiator’ is specific to this tribe, and, their “Wolf’s Soul” definition, as clearly shown in this movie. Italians called the “Expedious Buriectus”, (spelling from memory). Thus, Italian documents can confirm this Buri connection.

    Burians are also “Jason and the Argonauts” because they occuied the regions before this story was written ~300BC. the Colchus region of Georgia was called al-Burjan in Iranian mythology, and this is where he obtained the “Golden Fleece” he was seeking. His 1st stop Lemos Island. The Amazons in this story also resided in the Pontic and Lemnos Island (Aegean Sea). Thus, in Europe, the Order of the Golden Fleece can be interelated to Netherlands, Burgundians, and Burens as these portraits of Nobels form these regions typify a Golden Fleece necklace. This was controlled through Prague, Bohemia.

    For more credence, Charlemagne called himself “King of the Lombards”. He ruled from Prague but was born in Rhine regions.

    Thus, Buriano Tuscany is a Anglo-Saxon settlement. There could be other Burian events such as the Etruscans, but this is much earlier, and I believe this revised explaination for Buriano specifically can show merit from additional analysis, if available. I’ve worked on this Buriano name for many years, and think I’m on the correct path for this analysis, but the earlier periods such as Etruscans I’m still working as ancient data is harder to come by, and sketchy concerning this name. I believe Buri’s may have founded Rome. as described from my previous notes.

    I can also add that recently I found the info for the Buriano Estate in Volterra Tuscany. This would make Buriano a family surname as well. There is also a Lamberte di Buriano (probably a Lombard too).

    For religeous buffs, Lord Buriano Moravia is connected to Martin Luther in Germany, and Burians in the Netherlands were also sided with the Lutherens in the 30-year war during the 16th century. The Lutherens lost this war to the Roman Catholics.

    So the name Buriano comes from the Netherland-West germany, migrated to Buriano Italy, then migrated to Moravia to obtain this Italian spelling for Lord Buriano. -ano- is not Germanic for a Buri tribe, but Burian can be found in Germany, Czech, and English.

    This also leads to America (USA) 8th president Martin Van Buren, who’s pedigree is sketchy, but he claims to be Dutch.

    The Buri tribe is also Terras de Burro (Lands of the Buri) in Portugal, and also Buri province in Southern Brazil, who incidently also speak Portugese in Brazil.

    One can try this as well. Buryan(Siberian, and American Indians)=Burjan (Arabic and India)=Burdjan (Arabic typo error which s/b Burjan)=Buri (Ger. and Ptolomy)=Buriano (Italy/Moravia)=Beieren(Dutch)=Buren (Dutch), al-Burjan (Arabic), and others.

    It is believed Burian comes from Buryan or Burjan before surname practices came about in Europe. The oldest form of this name appears to be in Siberian Buryatia, i.e. Buryan and Buryats. I believe Phoenicians and Hyperboreans can be derived from this avenue during Neolithic periods.

    I’ve run a fundemental DNA test, and all of this would be the R1a1 haplogroup. My DNA does fit these data points, and Slavic language percursors as well. I’n Czech-Bohemian-American and my analysis shows merit. The last DNA date given was Central Asia at 10-15,000 BC, and as Kurgen Culture tribes. Kurgen Culture though is currently limited to ~5000 BC according to review concerning this culture. This is where you find Gok-Turks (Blue Turks) and Blue Bulgars, and Bashkirs (Bashkortostan, and Bashkorts, Volga Russians) These are wolf warriors, and claim a Siberian ancestor. Buryans here are Burzyan and Burzhan. Note the Romanian/Dacian Burzenland, Hungary Burgunland, and the Netherland Beierjnland (spelling may be off a bit). To me, it’s conceivable the same basic people used this type of description wherever they migrated to during the European “Dark Ages”.

    I’m seeking an image for the Buriano Castle ruin in Tuscany. Is there a known painting or engraving that may show this structure before it was destroyed? I have images of the ruins, but wonder what it looked like.

    The Buren Castle, Netherlands was also destroyed, but I’ve found a 17th cent. engraving for this building.

    These are the only two castles I currently am aware of that could be from a Burian family/tribe origin. Burian’s did have other castles, but were obtained from other tribes or barons that built them and retain these names today, in most cases of castles.

    Any image for this Buriano Castle would be appreciated.

    Thanks for the blog space. Fell free to contact me by email if you wish to add to my theories, ao have the castl image I’m seeking.

    I’m seeking a publisher for my research, and if you know of an interested party, please forward.

    I have several hundred pages of text and many maps and images to support my analysis. I plan on a title as “The Grand Global Genome”, because I believe this name approximates 20,000 BC, and there just aren’t many names to work with at this date, let alone circumnavigation of the globe to account for American Indians as well. One tribe Atsina could very well be Buryans in Montana USA. They also worship a she-wolf goddess, and have some linguistic connections too. They came here fleeing the Huns between 200 BC to about 300 AD, which studies seems to indicate. African artifacts have been found in Buryatia at Malta, and Buret and crbon dated to 22,000-25,000 BC.
    This supports my name, and DNA analysis. This also fits the Romulus and Remus she-wolf story.

    I’m not a historian, but this all seems inescapable to me. My background is in hi-tec spacecraft optical sensors, and optical figuring, mirrors and such. I’m retired now. Thanks again.

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    1. My dear Richard Burian,

      I am overwhelmed. I will check all this information and terrific stimuli. I hope I’ll have time at present, but I will certainly have in the near future since it is very interesting.

      Thanks you so much for the pain of having given me so much infos and all the passion of your research!

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  3. Hard to believe, which is why I decided to test my yDNA (male). I’m R1a1 haplogroup, and DNA global maps (including R1a1) are now showing up on the Internet. I suggest a review of these newer types of maps would aid for visualization of global context. There are also specific regional DNA maps becoming available.

    I had data on my name before I tested my yDNA, thus, It was pretty simple for me to analyze my results, which seems to fit all of my historical findings 100%. This was a blind test, and it blew me off my rocker.

    Thanks for your kind remarks. I’ll check back soon for additional comments. Your also correct. I’ve given you plenty on your plate to digest and I suggest you take some time for cross-references, and enough time for making some conclusions, where they can be found. My data is a first approximation and needs critique of the worst degree, from all perspectives, before it becomes fact, or as a minimum, shown to have merit. I’ve contemplated some of these regions for months, or years, before deciding where truth seems to lie. There is no escaping this time period when analyzing newer data points, and/or sciences, i.e. DNA. I’ve been very careful at screening historical data, and always seek out cross references. One also, at times, needs to theorize possibilities as a way to explain how data can be fitted together, or grouped. If your careful, a picture begins to emerge, but requires an incredible amount of data to feel content with results, as probable. So this also requires some creativity and flexing before results can be realized. I also struggle in determing good vs. bad histories, and the historians themselves. I also have to relay on many language translations into English, and that these are correct to begin with. These factors “all” are part of this comtemplation part of analysis and acceptabilty of data. A group of historians could shorten this cycle time, but as I’ve learned, historians can argue a lot, and sometimes requires “additional” studies to break these stalemates. I’m attempting to write my data down (now complete) to enable this type of critique.

    Feel free to e-mail me direct for specifics, and I’m still assimilating newer data. This type of study is never really finished, so I plan on chipping this down for many more years yet. I do feel I’m at a 1st approximation global condition right now, or, a 1st edition for book, but where a 2nd revision is already on the horizon, too. You have to start somewhere.

    It’s also nice to know someone is reading these comments, too.

    Best Wishes, RPB.

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  4. You may also want to look at Bari Italy. My understanding is the early name was Barium, and/or Barion. Compelling. I think you’ll find this location and port can be connected to Liburnia, and Dacian Romanians.
    This is also where you find the Buri tribe, province, and Buridava (Burridava) village.

    Bari is also where Santa Claus originates.

    Note that the coat of arms (CoA),or shield-crest emblem for Bari has a light blue and white checkerbord design, where, you can also find this on the Bayern (Bavaria) CoA. You can also find this on the car logo for BMW. Tell me this, why does the name Bayern have a “Y” in it?

    This is a critical “missing link” for the name Burian in Medeival Europe when surnames came about.

    There is also Bulgarians in Italy, Bulgheria Mountain, and other land grants (Bulgar Duke Alzeco – I’m using spellings as I recall them) and Burjans and Bulgars are each other ethnos vis-a-vis from very ancient times. However, I think Bulgars became more Turkish/Khazar (I believe a Bulgar), and Burjans would be more Sumarian Akkadian (as Hyperboreans would be). Burjans are Tengrinist (where Earth-god lives at the tops of mountains), Bulgars arn’t. Some claim Bulgars used a wolf tamga, while others dispute this. I believe this wolf to be a Burjan derived affiliate that brought the wolf to the Bulgars, and as a very small minority part of Turkish Bulgars, i.e., Khazars. Note that the Biblical Tower of Babel saga references both Khazars, and Bulgars (as; Burjan=Bulgar). Here Khazars may imply “Turks” as other Bulgar and Turkish events have occured since this story was conceived. This is perhaps a couple of ways to differentiate Bulgars from Burjans (Burians, Boreans, Buri, Bari, etc.).

    A Turkish Bori can have a definition “Royal Female Bitch” I think here meaning wolf of dog, not an English cuss word from slang. Note the reference to the Turkish she-wolf goddess Asena, Biblical Ashina, Asina, American Indian tribe Atsina. Here Bori implys an elevated position of nobility, or ruler, such as the term Burebista (early and significant Romanian-Dacian ruler, but where there isn’t certainty as to this being a name or title) by Romanian-Dacians, which I believe signified an elevated position, prince or ruler, not a personal name. Bulgars call this Boristine (my spelling may be off).

    These factors should be considered concerning Bari Italy. This is my 1st approximation take for this location. See what you may find.

    Thanks again. What’s in a name? Hope to find more comments soon – as difficult as this is, and I don’t want to scare off significant factors and critique, but, certainly I’ve laid the stage or invited avenues for comments. The smallest insignificant detail “does” matter. Italy is not a simple history by any stretch.

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  5. Dear Richard Burian,

    All this seems a marvellous and simulating myth. I’m afraid I have not time to research on this theme. This blog is focusing on Southern Europe mostly and on what is left of the Roman civilization. In some way on all that is not Burian, even though all is interconnected, as you seem to suggest when talking about Bari.

    I’ll pass your comments to people that are more related to the supposed hyperborean heritage. But frankly I don’t know how they will react. I confess in any case that you made me curious, so I might do some checking myself (I already did a little, some of your historical connections make sense as far as I can tell, some other possibly not)

    All the best

    Man of Roma

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  6. Of equal interest is the ancient village called Suburra, close to Germulus (~950 BC) on Palantine Hill, in the center of Rome. (My spellings may be a little off) This predates Romulus and Remus. I have little information about Suburra, however, there is also an ancient tribe in Anatolia called Subarians. They are considered an indigenous tribe, and this would be northern Mesopotamia (Sumeria). If these are the same people, this could be a possible solution for this village name. Halfway in between, you can find references to a Burjan (Arabic)tribe on Lemnos Island in the Aegean Sea, a possible stepping-stone location. Also, Hyperboreans called themselves Vans, which is Lake Van, Turkey today. Ancient Grave inscriptions on Lemnos match some Etruscan grave inscription characters.

    So this village has some unusual content in its’ name, although I don’t know much more yet. Burjans were in the Ahlat region of Lake Van. This I have found information on.

    It would be suggestive that Suburra “should” perhaps be connected to “miners”, if I’m on the correct path. Are there traces of mining around ancient Rome?

    Suburra may predate the founding of Rome at 753 BC, and seems they could be the same people as well.

    My estimate for Burjans on Lemnos Island is 10-1500 BC. Their god here was Hephaestus (god of forge), and the Hyperborean Zeus’s son. This can be verified with the story of Jason and the Argonauts, and his first stop on Lemnos Island, and where he found the Golden Fleece, i.e. Colchus, which today is Georgia, and is al-Burjan in Iranian mythology.

    I believe your actually correct in your use of the term “myth”. I believe this name is in many mythologies on a more global scale, and as demonstrated above.

    I’m happy your checking my data points, and, as you’ve commented, some of this seems to have merit.

    Keep checking, and you’ll find my story rings true. If these factors can be lined up properly, than I have a flood of additional data, but I don’t want to be overly speculative.

    My statements should hold their own ground based on “real” data and locations. I appreciate your kind thoughts above, and I’ll check back again soon.

    The is also the question of numerous pyramid locations in Italy, and the new ones outside of Milan (an old Lombard capital about the time of Buriano). I have references to a Burjan kindom in this region as; traveling west, you reach Constantinople, then Burjan, then France, then Spain. I have yet to determin this location. Buri province in NW Romania is a candidate. I have little resource for this location yet. However, the statement is compelling none-the-less. Calling France, France, suggest a post Gaul time period, but I would need to trace the original text to make such speculation, i.e. in English. Burian in Hungary can be Bvrian, and/or Burgyan. My name as Burian “is” Bohemian, English, and American. Some German, and a bit in France. Burjan’s (Burian’s) that left Italy and went to France used Bourges as a replacement in some cases. Ptolomy’s maps show Lugi-Buri, but as Buri (Bouri) in some English translations. Some claim Buri is pronounced as Bori (Borri, i.e. Nordic god). Here is another of those mythologies I mentioned above. I generally use the historical translations “as given” for now, but this is very complex. I believe this can be understood ultimately for all similar spellings and locations, but I’m certainly not a linguist. I do know a lot about this name though.

    My comments “should ring true”.

    Thanks for the feedback. I’m happy to receive references to studies both pro and con to my own.

    I also find Italy fascinating, and I know where to visit when I decide to go there. I’ll check back soon.
    Unfortunately, I need to provide a lot of context to substantiate my statements, and this seems to be working “in part” for you right now so, I’m happy for you.

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  7. Hyperboreans refer to those of iceland, greenland, the north pole etc… the crown of it all, the polar circle..

    not the other northern sissies 🙂

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    1. Ah ah, you made me laugh Sophia (welcome here btw). So I guess you do not belong to those ‘sissy’ folks but are from Greenland, Iceland or some other ‘very nordic’ place 🙂

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  8. Try Bjarmaland on the White Sea in very Northern Norway. I think Thor hails from here at least from some versions of the myths. Could Bjarma be derived from Burjan?

    Plenty far enough North to be Hyperborean, if: Buryan (Siberia)=Burjan (al-Burjan of Iranian myth, or Caucasus Iberians)=Central European Buri tribe (of Romania too)=Boii where home of the Boii is Bohemia= Burgundians where historians suggest is Burjan). Burgundians are related to Bornholm Island in the Baltic Sea, and Burgundy of France later.

    I believe the Boii tribe can trace to the Boian Culture ~4000BC in Bugaria (Thrace) today. The Boian name fits perfect as well as the archaeology locational names in this region. Next to the Vinca culture. The oldest known European cities are known here, and the metal forges as Copper Age. Some of the runic writitng matches Sumerian, however a lot doesn’t, and it may pre-date Sumerian runic type alphabet type of writing, in some cases. I don’t think the linguistics is fully mapped yet.

    These would trace to the Greek Boeotians (spelling may be off) who then went to Crete and Sicily, wherein, they allowed for the earliest form of the Latin Alphabet. Would predate Phoencians, and be the Crete blacksmiths called the Idaean Dactyls. Zeus was raised in a cave here too, and he’s a Hyperborean, and the other blacksmith Hephaestus, Zeus’s son of Lemnos Isle. The Etruscans are tied into the Lemnian language, and very little others according to linguistics.

    Recent DNA on Crete being targeted suggests Europeans were likely the ancient founding race. I would say Macedonian-Lemnians and their god Kabeiros is found of Samothrace, Macedonian, and Crete Phonecian coins. As stated above, there is two Mt. Ida’s, one on Crete, the other by Troy, that was a city founded by Apollo, Zeus’s son too. Kabeiros may mean Ka-spirit/soul of Beiros. Beiro relates to Poseidon and Beirut in Lebanon. Phoenicians hail from here in Tyre, and Sidon. Beirut was supposed to be a mint under earlier name as Berytis, which coin dealers lable as Buritis (?), because they can’t find this mint. The coins state in quadrant form B U R I, which could be B I R U. Beiro relate to Lebanon, Troy’s Mt. Ida, as do the Idaean Dactyls. I would suggest their tamborine hails from Siberian shamans.

    Siberian shamanism fits ALL Northern Arctic peoples including American Indians. True in Norway, Iceland, and Finland…etc., and Hyperboreans. As a wolf tribe they are Carians, by Lycia which means wolf.

    See if this helps. The god Buri of the North was created, or from, or out of the ICE in rock form, called the producer. Bor from him can mean born. Ask (ash tree) and Ember (elm tree), the 1st human Earthlings by this definition, as their Adam and Eve analogy.

    I think Hyperboreans are Pelasgians, and the Myceneaen Sea Peoples as well. Earlier as Minoans. Idaean Dactyls could be the 1st settlement on Crete from some text I’ve read. The Boian Culture can meet these dates, and their profession, and names on the maps associated to various archaeology sites.

    Sorry for the extra dose, but isn’t this what we all want to know more about? Are we really that regionally different? Thanks for the comments, GGG guy.

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